Rant About Atheist Dogma

I restate that the Intelligence who both created and sustains the universe is real and necessary.

God necessarily exists outside of our universe of energy, time, space and matter. Those qualities are contingent and rely on outside forces to bring them into existence. The Big Bang occurred 13-14 billion years ago. That is when all four of those phenomenas came into being. Nevertheless there was God who is without beginning or end because He exists outside of time.

Finite beings trapped inside the laws of physics cannot truly comprehend how there actually was the divine intellect (actualized existence) prior to the existence of the infinite universe.
An analogy might be to use the Digital Universe Theory, which states that the universe is a digital simulation. In this case, God is both the programmer and architecture of the hardware of the simulation.

Some Atheists claim that if something is not provable by their ‘god’ Empirical science, it cannot exist. When this assertion is made or someone rejects the idea of free will, God, or any other ‘intangible’ or ‘abstract, they must necessarily reject all such concepts.
The laws of mathematics, physics, gravity and all other natural laws are used to measure or calculate, but are themselves unmeasurable. Why do the atheists not reject these things? Would that be inconvenient to their ’cause’? The concept of ‘good’ and ‘evil’ belongs solely to religion. The West was built by the Judeo-Christian concepts of charity, cooperation, selflessness and the belief that the whole of reality reflects The Creator.

Believing that studying nature will guide the observer to God, Christianity was the spearhead of science. The dedication of the monks and nuns preserved knowledge and learning through the thousand-plus years between the fall of Rome and the Renaissance. With very few exceptions (beginning in the 19th Century) every scientist of note was and is religious. They are also mostly Christian.

Atheists condemn all religion, everywhere and for all time, by citing the abhorrent behaviors of only a few people who claimed to be religious, yet acted in direct contradiction to the values and teachings of their faith. At the same time, they hold all atheists innocent of the verifiable, catastrophic slaughters of 200 million-plus by people who loudly, proudly claimed their atheism.

Rather they cite the religious education from the people’s youth. Somehow the atheists of today can repudiate their religious upbringing and be ‘true atheists’ while the atheists responsible for mass slaughter were unable to do so. It may be that no one screamed ‘Atheism” as they loosed the bullet or blade that killed, the ideology that demanded and justified the dehumanization and industrial -scale slaughter REQUIRED Atheism because the absence of God and religious morality.

Despite their claims to the contrary, Good without God is fallacious. The abolition of God must necessarily abolish all laws based upon God’s decrees. Just as Catholicism built the foundation and culture of Western Science, it built it’s Civilization and culture. That includes each and every law and cultural expectations. Atheist cultures have produces no uplifting or entrancingly beautiful art, music, poems or prose.

Atheism demands absolute obedience to the ideology of itself and anything built upon it. Art of any type demands freedom. Humans feel repressed and angry under totalitarianism, because we were built for more. We were built for Theism and God; the ubiquitousness of theism throughout the world proves it. Few were Christian to begin with. but Christianity (non-violently for the most part) peacefully conquered the pagan world with the message of God’s forgiveness and love.

Questions Skeptics Have For Religious People – Part 4

“Skeptics” seem to think they have a lot of unanswerable questions. They don’t. Let’s see how many we can answer for them!

Max Kolbe of Michigan, also known as Dean Esmay (but his friends still call him Max) starred in Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill Movie. He is former publisher of Dean’s World, contributor to The Moderate Voice, former Managing Editor of A Voice for Men, and a general rabble-rouser.

Brother Polight Throws Black Christians Under the Bus

Brother Polight throws black Christians under the bus. Youngblood Ray & others have some counteropinions.

Max Kolbe of Michigan, also known as Dean Esmay (but his friends still call him Max) starred in Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill Movie. He is former publisher of Dean’s World, contributor to The Moderate Voice, former Managing Editor of A Voice for Men, and a general rabble-rouser.

Red Pill Religion: Max Takes Criticism & Escaping Atheism History

Escaping Atheism started in late 2016 as an independent project, that is now part of Red Pill Religion. The Escaping Atheism project i: Secular Social Criticism of Modern Atheism. It came out of an earlier project “God and Man in the 21st Century” which tried to engage the Atheist community with politeness and humor, and to simply ask Atheists to get along with people and have tolerance.

Our kinder, gentler project was savaged, mocked, and ignored, while we watched countless religious people being persecuted online every day.

We realized we were now in the Sh*tposting era of the Internet, and no one respected “nice” anymore. And frankly, Jesus had never been particularly “nice” in his work.

It had became obvious after #Gamergate that marginalizing, lying about, and abusing religious people was the real goal of organized Atheism and so-called “Skepticism” and “Rationalism.” These weren’t like the old Atheists, they weren’t confused. They were filled with hate, and they wanted to destroy anyone who wouldn’t be Atheist with them.

Sargon of Akkad, Kraut & Tea, and other hateful and abusive bigots in the “Anti-SJW Atheist” crowd were and are no better than the vast majority of SJWs (which is to say, the majority of Dogmatic Atheists today.) We’ve met most of our preliminary goal, which was the complete destruction of the Atheist/Skeptic/Rationalist Community, using multiple social media strategies and guerilla campaigns, as well as our YouTube channel. Working with many volunteers, almost all an Anons project.

At Red Pill Religion we no longer focus exclusively on the Atheism cult movement. It is near dead and should be all but gone in a year. Thus we are discussing ratcheting down our tone and our language and expanding our subject matter. But for those who still wonder: we were never a ministry. We were Secular Social Critics of Atheism.

Today we will discuss history, and the need to change tone and change focus, now that the Atheist cult movement is nearly dead.

Our team included friendly atheists, and Pagans from day 1, and now includes Jews, Hindus, Deists, people with Buddhist backgrounds, and others. Religious people are completely normal, as sane as you, and a permanent part of your life. Red Pill Religion explores the intersection of culture, politics, science, and religion, from a Red Pill perspective.

Max Kolbe of Michigan, also known as Dean Esmay (but his friends still call him Max) starred in Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill Movie. He is former publisher of Dean’s World, contributor to The Moderate Voice, former Managing Editor of A Voice for Men, and a general rabble-rouser.

Red Pill Religion History: Max Kolbe & Missing the Mark

This interview from early 2017 is an early look at the Escaping Atheism project, about 3 months after it had started. It came from an earlier project “God and Man in the 21st Century” which tried to engage the Atheist community with politeness and humor, and to simply ask Atheists to get along with people and have tolerance.
That was savaged, mocked, and ignored, while we watched countless religious people being persecuted online every day.

We realized we were now in the Sh*tposting era of the Internet, and no one respected “nice” anymore.
https://youtu.be/YjHJaLQV6Wc

It had became obvious after #Gamergate that marginalizing, lying about, and abusing religious people was the real goal of organized Atheism and so-called “Skepticism” and “Rationalism.” These weren’t like the old Atheists, they weren’t confused. They were filled with hate, and they wanted to destroy anyone who wouldn’t be Atheist with them.

Sargon of Akkad, TJ Kirk, and other hateful and abusive bigots in the “Anti-SJW Atheist” crowd were and are no better than the vast majority of SJWs (which is to say, the majority of Dogmatic Atheists today).

We’ve met most of our preliminary goal, which was the complete destruction of the Atheist/Skeptic/Rationalist Community, using multiple social media strategies and guerilla campaigns, as well as our YouTube channel. Working with many volunteers, almost all an Anons project.

At Red Pill Religion we no longer focus exclusively on the Atheism cult movement. It is near dead and should be all but gone in a year.

Thus we are discussing ratcheting down our tone and our language and expanding our subject matter. But for those who still wonder: we were never a ministry. We were Secular Social Critics of Atheism.

Our team included friendly atheists, and Pagans from day 1, and now includes Jews, Hindus, and others.

Religious people are completely normal, as sane as you, and a permanent part of your life. Red Pill Religion explores the intersection of culture, politics, science, and religion, from a Red Pill perspective.

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Max Kolbe of Michigan, also known as Dean Esmay (but his friends still call him Max) starred in Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill Movie. He is former publisher of Dean’s World, contributor to The Moderate Voice, former Managing Editor of A Voice for Men, and a general rabble-rouser.

Shane Killian: Moron Takes the (Gay Wedding) Cake

Hemant Mehta dishonestly misrepresents the facts of the Masterpiece Cakeshop case. Lord Killian shows why “Friendly Atheist” is another example of Killian’s Law. Excellent video by Shane Killian.

Max Kolbe of Michigan, also known as Dean Esmay (but his friends still call him Max) starred in Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill Movie. He is former publisher of Dean’s World, contributor to The Moderate Voice, former Managing Editor of A Voice for Men, and a general rabble-rouser.

Professional Atheist “Entertainers” Like Harassing Children?

*Update 10/21/18: Please see notes below:

I wish to state here for the public record that I believe two public figures who make money peddling anti-religious hate propaganda and pseudoscience, John Gleason the “Godless Engineer” and Kaitlyn Chloe, have intentionally and maliciously spread rumors on the Internet that I abuse my child.

They do this, I believe, knowing that it is indisputably groundless, in order to reputation-smear. Reputation-smearing is big business on the Internet, and many members of the online “Skeptic” movement are part of that business. They know full well one of the best ways to have plausible deniability is to express a phony “concern” with no basis at all, or the flimsiest pretext, and  then spread and encourage rumors that someone is a thief, a rapist, a child molester, or some other kind of miscreant.

These people and their co-coreligionists in cult groups like “The Great Debate Community” and “The Non-Sequitur Show” know something important: if you spread rumors that someone’s abusing a child, or is a rapist, or something similar, they KNOW that rumor will follow that person forever. They know the man they’ve falsely accused may face physical attacks from total strangers, job loss, business loss, and more. They even know it may trigger fake reports to the police or Child Protective Services, just to harass their victim and his family.

John Gleason the “Godless Engineer” and his partner, Kaitlyn Chloe, two very public figures who make money on the Internet, have intentionally targeted my child for harassment, knowing that by spreading these fake rumors both me and my child may face harassment and discrimination and more at school or work. They intentionally traumatized a child, just to spread a malicious rumor. To get revenge on someone who had criticized their public work as public figures.

Public figures like professional Christian- and Jew-haters John Gleason and Kaitlyn Chloe, along with other public figures associated with them putting out public content on the Internet, owe apologies to my son Max Jr. They also owe apologies to me, my wife, my ex-wife Rosemary, and her current husband John Ribner. So does anyone at “The Great Debate Community” or “The Non-Sequitur Show” who continues to tolerate this inexcusable harassment of an innocent child and his parents and step-parents and family. Or to asssociate with known Internet Harassers and Abusers.

This is also posted publicly in case of SWATting attempts and phony reports to try to waste police and CPS time. Which we expect to happen sooner or later; the creepy Internet Skeptic hate cult does not hesitate to try to destroy people by any means necessary, including endlessly repeating things they know to be lies.

These are people who will even go after children. And their friends think that’s OK. Remember this about them. And their friends.

*Update 10/21/18*: We recently appeared, hopefully for the last time ever, on the Non-Sequitur Show, me Max, Andrew Strateletes, and John Baptiste. During the show it came under contention that somehow, Godless Engineer had never suggested I abused my child, and claiming that this article you are reading here was published somehow before Godless Engineer made such insinuations.

However, as this video by Orthodox Defender shows, made well before this article was written, no, the idea that I’m a danger to my child for teaching him about God and teaching him to defend himself against Atheist bullies is something Godless Engineer was putting into the air already. And as I have noted, the “teaching your child religion is child abuse” is a common Ideological Atheist trope. As I have also noted many times, in my years of political activism I saw how spreading rumors that you’re a rapist or abusing your child are used to do things like trigger Family Court or phony Child Protective Services investigations, or to just get people attacked on the streets.

I will note also that our friend Deflating Atheism, who saw the original interaction, told the Non-Sequitur Show people he would not appear on their show until I get a retraction and an apology, and so far as I know none was ever given. I was not the only one to interpret Mr. Gleason’s words as a thinly veiled attempt to offend, to further the common Ideological Atheist trope that teaching kids about God is child abuse, and to spread rumors about me on the Internet.

No one suggested that any specific person did or would call CPS. That’s not how it works when you’re spreading rumors about someone, you get other people to do your dirty work. I don’t believe anything these people say anymore; King Crocoduck demonstrably misrepresents the history of science and the philosophy of science and the state of contemporary Evolutionary Biology and isn’t really qualified in that field, and has said many hateful things about religion in his time. Godless Engineer is who he is, anyone can just listen to him. And Steve McCrae loves to maintain plausible deniability by denying having any responsibility for anything his friends and fellow cultists have to say, so if he didn’t say it then it’s “libel” to say he routinely gives people saying hateful things a platform. And Kyle Curtis lacks the guts to admit that “Gay Rights” only happened by asking Christians for support, and won’t talk about the reality that Secular and Atheist sources all over the world and all over history have been virulently, even murderously, anti_Gay. Whatever. These people hate religion and they treat religious people like garbage. I feel good for those religious folks who can befriend them; I don’t have the strength to sit and listen to such abuse.

I genuinely hope we are done with these jokers as of today. I can’t see where our talking with them does anyone any good.

*Update 2:* No, one more. I really am one of the common survivors of pedo rings that get covered for in Secular Schools, Police Departments, Foster Home Systems, and Juvenile Prisons regularly. Anyone who has done work in this area knows that it’s true there’s a problem all over government systems; simply searching the Internet for examples of the Secular schools (and other facilities) covering for pedos is child’s play. I did work in this area for years as a Men’s advocate, however, a quick search online gives example after example after example. Anyone who’s done work with the abused knows where the pedos go, and they can be found in any profession just about.

The Catholics are doing a lot about their sex abuse problem (see the work of Church Militant for one of many examples), whereas others are silent about their own epidemic. Picking on one group to the exclusion of all others is hypocrisy and bigotry and using victims as your political pawns, and all of these people and their apologists know it.

As both a father and a survivor, I still know, my child is in more danger from his public schoolteachers than he is from our priests. A statistical reality that matters I think.

*Update 3* We really did have multiple victims of the Secular Foster Home & School System approach Steve about their experiences and get haughtily dismissed as having a case of “whataboutism.” Nice way to marginalize people Steve. Dismissing child sex abuse survivors and their experience so you can go after one religious group you don’t like is bigotry, especially when you’re rude to other victims who approach you about your dismissal of their experiences.

Max Kolbe of Michigan, also known as Dean Esmay (but his friends still call him Max) starred in Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill Movie. He is former publisher of Dean’s World, contributor to The Moderate Voice, former Managing Editor of A Voice for Men, and a general rabble-rouser.

Great Debate Community: Dishonest Bullies & Cowards

There is no web site on the Internet where you will get more bad information on science and history than Steve McRae’s utterly laughable and 98% vile “Great Debate Community.”

For some time we on the Red Pill Religion team had tried to engage the bizarre little hate cult that is “The Great Debate Community” constructively.

The shadowy little clique surrounding The Great Debate Community sent quite a few disingenuous, slimy people, men and women alike, to come and try to convince us that there is no organized, malevolent movement calling itself capital A Atheism. To tell us there is  no cult religion called capital S Skepticism—even though every single one of them was very obviously part of an organized movement and clique sent to propagandize and recruit.

Or, as in the case of the utterly vile “Godless Engineer” John Gleason and his hateful partner Kaitlyn Chloe, to simply bully and abuse people, and even target their children for harassment. While lying about science and history.

Some friends of Red Pill Religion, not official team members, tried for a while to get us into friendly relationships with some of the people there, but it was not to be. Even the people who pretended to be “nice” like Shannon Q, Kyle Curtis, and a few others all eventually turned out to be hateful lying bigots just trying to bring people into the capital A Atheist fold–by which I mean the creepy anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-Muslim, anti-Hindu, anti-Pagan, anti-Zoroastrian, hate cult they’re all part of.

They’re very much like Scientologists.

BTW, if you ever want proof that these people are a cult? Even if you’re an atheist or agnostic? Go in there for a week and start saying you think OK, maybe it’s rational think there’s a God. You’ve looked at the evidence and you don’t find it convincing but you can see why an intelligent person might. See how they treat you: like you’ve picked up an infectious disease and mind-virus, or became an idiot, or a traitor. That is how you’ll be treated. Especially if you also say things like, “come on, we should be friends with religious people.”(See *)

You will be treated like a Jehovah’s Witness who has begun to question the Watchtower Society. I guarantee you.

Yesterday I found that our friend Derek, the Gay Atheist Anrchist, got banned from Great Debate Community, while others like our friend White Injun get routinely muted, bullied, and abused just trying to make a polite point. I’ve been in the Great Debate Community’s chat server for a few months but am leaving today as a result of this ongoing behavior of bullying and bigotry and intellectual dishonesty.

While there are obviously a few decent, if confused and deluded, people hanging at the Great Debate Community, it’s mostly a pit of filthy bigots no better than NeoNazis or Communists. Filthy bigots who routinely, and in many cases knowingly and intentionally, strawman and misrepresent religion and religious people with phony science, fake spun history, idiotic armchair psychoanalysis, and encouraging an intolerant, condescending,  superior, elitist, bullying attitude towards religious people.

They think they are The Thought Police, who will tell everybody else what is rational or acceptable to believe.

When I think of the Great Debate Community, I think of a swirling nest of bigoted snakes. The loudest most obnoxious ones are actually the more honest ones; they’re open about their hate and revel in being bullies. The really devious, poisonous snakes among them pretend to be nice, and even like they want to be your friend.

(Here’s a hint: you do not need a “friend” who treats you like you’re mentally ill or a simpleton.)

I’ve left the Great Debate Community’s Server. Their “Great Debate” is a fraud in every way. The Great Debate Community CONTINUALLY repeats demonstrable lies about religion, misrepresents human history, lies about and misrepresents contemporary science, and teaches its members and followers to treat religious people as if they are inferior subhuman and defective.

Which is all the rest of the capital-A Atheist movement has ever done, whether it’s with low-level Internet pseudoscientists like PZ Myers, or filthy con men with “mainstream” respectability like Penn Jillette or Sam Harris.

Those of us who think there’s a God and that supernatural forces are real get treated like we are a threat, like we are stupid, and like we need to be psychoanalyzed by these pompous elitists. It makes fans of the Great Debate Community and the rest of the creepy, bigoted Atheist Movement unbelievably nasty, condescending, ignorant douchebags. If you’re a fan of the Great Debate Community and wonder why you seem to have few if any friends, consider the possibility that it’s because hanging out there makes you unpleasant and nasty.

Because Capital A, Identitarian, Movement Atheists  and “Skeptics” who hang out all day with others Atheists talking about how bad religion is, and how irrational the rest of humanity is, are really hateful nasty people. They’re unpleasant to be around most of the time, have you noticed?

What you might also notice is that the longer you hang out with them, the more nasty cynical and unlikeable you become, too.

Also please notice, over time they all tend to turn on and savage each other. Like Lord of the Flies.

Anti-Theists are irrefutably the biggest haters and biggest bullies and biggest terrorists on the Internet. Those of you who are friends with them are being “tolerant” of hateful abusive bullies who go after people’s children like John Gleason and his hateful abusive partner Kailtyn Chloe. These people routinely lie about science, routinely lie about history, and routinely abuse and bully religious people, either for fun or for profit.

Up to and including intentionally and knowingly quoting their critics out of context. Or talking only to the dumbest religious people. Or psychoanalyzing people who disagree with them. And acting like anyone who disagrees with Atheism must be mentally ill or defective somehow. (Nobody is better at that very Nazi-like pretend-psychoanalysis than “nice” and “polite” pseudointellectual bigot Steve McRae, BTW.)

I left Capital-A Atheism, creepy fake capital S “Skepticism,” because I realized it was a bizarre intolerant thought-control cult. Great Debate Community has PROVEN to me that that is all it EVER has been, and probably all it ever can be.

If anyone over at “The Great Debate Community” ever wants to STOP being a hateful bigoted dishonest manipulative bully, if you want to STOP being someone who only PRETENDS to be nice, and you want to be a decent human being and just be FRIENDS with religious people, UNDERSTAND and get along with spiritual people, stop on by Red Pill Religion. But otherwise, I will repeat what I said in my public videos:

I apologize for excessive cuss words and excessive loud voice in the past videos and will try to do better. But I believe I had every right to be angry, and that others have just as much right to be angry. And I have no apologies at all for rightly identifying hateful bigoted bullies and cultists who pretend they aren’t in a cult, and who pretend they have no ideology. And I have no apologies at all for publicly identifying and condemning the bullying behavior, the pseudoscience, or the pseudohistory.

And I will continue to note that these are filthy people who went after my child.

I don’t care if any of them likes me or likes this project. I don’t like any of them. At all. They’re awful, horrible people, no better than abusive bigots like Matt Dillahunty or Kyle Kulinski. Or that two-faced con artist Penn Jillette.

Goodbye Great Debate Community. For a couple of years everybody told me I was too mean to you, that I should try to be friendly. I tried. We tried. But there’s no point. When you’re dealing with intolerant mind-control cult like Scientology or Steve McRae’s “The Great Debate” community, you can’t expect honest dialogue or reasonable debate. They’re a cult that simply pretends to want to explore ideas.

Red Pill Religion will continue to run its efforts to alert the public to the identitarian, bullying, thought-control cult that is Capital-A Atheism, and phony Capital S “Skepticism,” until we see the movement reform itself or cease to exist. Whether these bullies call themselves “Free Thinkers,” “Liberalists,” or “Skeptics,” they need to reform, or they need to be shunned by decent people everywhere.

Red Pill Religion will otherwise continue to welcome and have dialogue with friendly atheists, agnostics, deists, Buddhists, Shintoists, Hindus, Pagans, Zoroastrians, Muslims, and anyone else who wants to have honest conversations and even spirited debates. The only people we don’t put up with are haters and bullies, pseudoscientists and pseudohistorians, such as the ones who currently swirl like flies around The Great Debate Community.

*Update*: We got a complaint because there are a lot of theists hanging around specifically at the Great Debate Community who don’t get taken out. Point taken. Religious people who are new and don’t know much often get treated OK there for a while. But anyone who’s a regular who’s actually smart enough to challenge them on their endless use of pseudoscience and pseudohistory, or who challenges their casual every day bigotry toward religious people, or correctly notes the base fraud that there is any “Great Debate Between Science And Religion,” will be marginalized, muted, ejected, insulted, smeared, and faced with other silencing tactics.

I do not believe the people running The Great Debate Community will do anything to fix any of this. They were offered a hand of friendship, private conversations to clear up misunderstandings. They refused.

Max Kolbe of Michigan, also known as Dean Esmay (but his friends still call him Max) starred in Cassie Jaye’s Red Pill Movie. He is former publisher of Dean’s World, contributor to The Moderate Voice, former Managing Editor of A Voice for Men, and a general rabble-rouser.